tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post8313929909782467961..comments2024-03-24T11:47:12.059+01:00Comments on Those Who Can See: The Mis-education of Afro-Americans, YesterdayM.G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-87059918722660759702013-10-17T01:15:47.092+02:002013-10-17T01:15:47.092+02:00Ok im from Sweden so my country has no slave histo...Ok im from Sweden so my country has no slave history to dig from regarding education of minorities. There are some parts of this article though that are worth commenting upon.<br /><br />Firstly: Great deal of attention is payed to what old people from old sources had to say about the "freedmans" cognitive abilities. Well that is rather ridiculous simply because what did they know about the subject of the minds cognitive functions? There is absolutely no scientific about this approach with old "witnesses".<br /><br />Secondly: Looking at Figure 21. Both curves showing approximately the same slope hence the procentual improvements for both groups is virtually the same. 20 point compared to 25 points for the black group over the same time-span 1990-2011. The slope of the curves indicates that its only a matter of time before the black- group reaches 270 points which is the white-groups starting value. 8-6 years of the curve is extrapolated. Now its possibly to relate to this possible future in different ways. One is of course to point to the gap and say: look the gap is still pretty much constant! Another way to look at it to pose a question: Where the whites of 1990 as dumb (or smart) as the blacks of 2020? A third: possible interpretation is to state a simple fact: the rate of improvement is pretty much constant for both groups which means that there must be done something right in the educational system.<br /><br />Hence the argument that money should be spared on the educational system whether it would be for pure economical reasons or the bizarre argument - that its no point in educate blacks - fall on its own ridiculousness. As long as the results are constantly improving the debate of the gap is rather pointless.<br /><br />I can tell that in Sweden the school results have been in constant decline for 20 years. Both in times of more left-wing government and as now with a more right-winged. At least your educational system seems to work and you should be proud of that.Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-47895382612747329212012-04-08T14:00:13.967+02:002012-04-08T14:00:13.967+02:00Thank you for your observation, Paul sent me. You...Thank you for your observation, <b>Paul sent me</b>. You say 'compliance with the environment' is the key to success in school. I've been surprised to hear more and more black commentators lately saying maybe 'the environment' that would best serve their kids is an all-Black one--that is, re-segregating schools. Ernie Chambers, the black Nebraskan congressman, proposed splitting Omaha into separate <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/15/us/15omaha.html?_r=2" rel="nofollow">black, white, and Hispanic</a> school districts. (which caused an uproar) <a href="http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120119/GUARDIAN/120119510" rel="nofollow">Here's</a> a black Florida teacher waxing nostalgic about his segregated high school, and <a href="http://books.google.fr/books?id=pyPg3JwczmYC&pg=PR28&lpg=PR28&dq=black+schools+black+teachers&source=bl&ots=rvKPLSo1AI&sig=z5OGPto5bvJNa1ln8hcy7L7i5BA&hl=fr&sa=X&ei=BmqBT4WvCebH0QWBwYn7Bg&ved=0CHwQ6AEwCTg8#v=onepage&q=black%20schools%20black%20teachers&f=false" rel="nofollow">here</a> is an entire book ('Black Teachers on Teaching') full of such nostalgia, for example:<br /><br /><i>Echoing these sentiments, Ruby Forsythe, an eighty-year-old [black] teacher, discusses how integration has affected black pupils: "When the children were integrated into white schools, they lost something. Integration has helped in some ways, but it has hurt our black children in some ways. Now, instead of seeing black children winning prizes for their achievements, you see them all in special eduaction classes. This has caused them to lose their pride, their self-esteem. They have been pushed back, as far as leadership is concerned. Instead of being taught to lead, they are being taught to follow."<br /><br />[Black teacher] Bernadine Morris agrees: "I think when they integrated the schools, instead of the black kids seeing themselves as people who could go in there and make progress, they got linked and then linked themselves to all the bad things that the kids were doing. I can only relate to when I was in a segregated school. You'd go to high school commencement and I could see these kids walking up there with these four-year scholarships to places like Fisk and Howard or A&T or wherever. Now when I go to a high school graduation, the only kids I see getting the scholarships are the white kids."</i><br /><br />I don't know if you as an educator agree that a mono-racial environment is easier for children to learn in, or not. But I am beginning to suspect that we are headed back in that direction, only this time it will be at the behest of the Afro and not the Euro community.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-34735678701919120612012-04-08T06:04:04.235+02:002012-04-08T06:04:04.235+02:00I teach in a rapidly changing school. Simple fact...I teach in a rapidly changing school. Simple fact - black students are consistently more difficult to teach, even when: 1) they have parents that completed a college degree, 2) are from affluent families, 3) participate in classes more fully.<br /><br />There is no scientific claim to be made here, just a simple observation. My "dumb" white kids are more likely to perform well in a school environment than a "smart" black one. Compliance with the environment seems to be the common thread. White kids that are not compliant with the environment do as poorly as the black ones. Is the human trainable? If yes, the human will do well in school.Paul sent menoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-3630593627028214992012-04-02T22:29:59.871+02:002012-04-02T22:29:59.871+02:00Those old racists really knew the score. 100 yrs o...Those old racists really knew the score. 100 yrs on and most people are denying facts that were once commonknowledge.Whites need to be less 2faced and just call it like it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-49388329713301683662012-04-01T01:53:55.689+02:002012-04-01T01:53:55.689+02:00I got tired of waiting for a member of the Rainbow...<i>I got tired of waiting for a member of the Rainbow of Diversity to show up and post it.</i><br /><br />It'll be a long wait indeed, because they never get posted--This humble blog's tyrannical <a href="http://thosewhocansee.blogspot.fr/p/welcome.html" rel="nofollow">commenting policy</a> is that only race-realists are allowed in the comments section. Cheers.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-49190365221058171032012-04-01T01:29:25.857+02:002012-04-01T01:29:25.857+02:00YOU A RACISS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry. I got tired of wa...YOU A RACISS!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><br />Sorry. I got tired of waiting for a member of the Rainbow of Diversity to show up and post it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-25079075927783854932012-03-31T12:36:38.499+02:002012-03-31T12:36:38.499+02:00From the Atlantic article:
The history of African-...From the Atlantic article:<br /><i>The history of African-Americans since the discovery of the New World is the story of their encounter with technology, an encounter that has proved perhaps irremediably devastating to their hopes, dreams, and possibilities.</i><br /><br />Yes, which is why once they had the chance, millions of them hopped on boats back to Africa to get as far away as possible from that 'irremediably devastating' technology. <br /><br />Oh wait, no they didn't. They stuck around to suffer under the brutal yoke of electric lighting, flush toilets, dialysis machines, Chrysler Lebarons with 22-inch rims, and cell phones on which to better, as W.H. Thomas put it, <i>'spend hours in talking about the most trivial things concerning himself and others...waiting, with bated breath and restless impatience, like a fresh charger on the turf, for the vocal exhaustion of his speech competitor, and on whose slightest pause he will, without regard to relevance or sense, instantly plunge in for the sole object of outdistancing others in chattering clamor.'</i> (1901)<br /><br />As you say, it's an infinite supply of bogeymen to point the finger at, rather than admitting that the cause of their troubles is in fact the biggest racist of them all--natural selection.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-66400103925151705022012-03-31T11:08:37.461+02:002012-03-31T11:08:37.461+02:00It's fascinating to read the various excuses f...It's fascinating to read the various excuses for black educational failure. The supply is potentially infinite. Here's a favorite of mine. The author says blacks' lack of interest in science and technology is because the white man has used science to repress the black man; therefore blacks have negative associations toward it:<br /><br />http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/99jan/aftech.htmHeliogabalusnoreply@blogger.com