tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post619210815486704809..comments2024-03-24T11:47:12.059+01:00Comments on Those Who Can See: Why Re-Colonization? Future OrientationM.G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-51611055107773091672022-09-07T22:36:26.560+02:002022-09-07T22:36:26.560+02:00I think it's not so much that living in the tr...I think it's not so much that living in the tropics is so easy. That is as hard as it is in the colder regions. What's lacking in warmth in teh north is lacking in water and nutrients in the soil in the south. <br />But the winter in the north is more predictable in its effect and diseases and pests are much less widespread.<br />So, preparing for the future is more likely to be rewarded in the north than in the south.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05762173449753069350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-76697077576460804492015-09-16T08:42:19.817+02:002015-09-16T08:42:19.817+02:00With regard to the chicken and egg above about whe...With regard to the chicken and egg above about whether infrastructure or large-scale warfare came first to Europeans, Mr Cochran seems to come down pretty firmly on war first, infrastructure later:<br /><br />https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2014/11/01/the-inexorable-progress-of-science-archaeology/<br />https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2014/11/08/remix/<br />https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2014/11/22/faster-than-fisher/<br /><br />(There are even better posts, but these seem to get the point across.)<br /><br />Thanks for this analysis. Big fan of your work.Rhetocrateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00896200921105061521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-16530276773961265942015-06-30T11:04:52.924+02:002015-06-30T11:04:52.924+02:00If it's alright, I put my comment on pastebin:...If it's alright, I put my comment on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/Jxv2ca7bsdfsfdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-87461067947012116322015-06-25T12:27:55.587+02:002015-06-25T12:27:55.587+02:00Californian--
We seem to have parallel thoughts v...Californian--<br /><br />We seem to have parallel thoughts very often. I've been thinking lately that we have in fact entered an intellectual Dark Age, and that future historians will consider it as such. It's fascinating to live through a period like this, watching knowledge disappear from academia and public discourse before your very eyes, replaced by the basest sort of magical thinking.<br /><br />As for the physical infrustructure, yes, I hadn't thought of it that way, the parallel between cities like Detroit and other abandoned or destroyed cities in historical times of invasion/collapse. I'm not so very old, and I admit that I never could have imagined such advanced decay in my lifetime. It is humbling.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-11778020307404939762015-06-22T16:10:13.039+02:002015-06-22T16:10:13.039+02:00MG and Jayman,
I know next to nothing about these ...MG and Jayman,<br />I know next to nothing about these things but the genetics of intelligence and temperament is supposed to be highly polygenic. I would think a 1+-S.D. difference in means in a highly polygenic trait (e.g. g-factor) is a HUGE difference requiring LOTS of selection. So it seems to me that temperate-tropical selection pressure differences among primitive peoples and Malthusian selection pressures among medieval temperate peoples are likely BOTH required to explain the differences.<br />Brucenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-37744502921928155202015-06-13T17:08:35.034+02:002015-06-13T17:08:35.034+02:00"Leads me to wonder if the reproductive winne..."Leads me to wonder if the reproductive winners are time preference losers."<br /><br />Only until the welfare cheques stop.Lokinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-2116202582862973782015-06-12T15:07:40.729+02:002015-06-12T15:07:40.729+02:00One thing I find interesting is that a century ago...One thing I find interesting is that a century ago scientists openly discussed the inherent differences between the races. Today, this sort of discussion trends toward the taboo. We are retrogressing into a sort of dark ages, not just in science but quite literally as more white cities are wrecked by the growing African tide.Californiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-2854390312269904142015-06-10T00:44:54.653+02:002015-06-10T00:44:54.653+02:00Anon--
Don't worry, you're not the only o...Anon--<br /><br />Don't worry, you're not the only one whose job is at risk--I blog under a handle for many reasons.<br /><br />Interesting ideas about skirmishes and massacres.<br /><br /><i>Africans tend to skirmish. Europeans, East Asians tend to slaughter.</i><br /><br />If that's true, I wonder if it's because S.S. Africans existed mostly as hunter-gatherers or horticulturists (hoe not plow) until pretty recently? At time of first contact (1400s/1500s), Europeans had been intensively plow-farming for centuries and had built up huge, settled societies (as had East Asia), but wasn't most of Africa sparsely settled and still in subsistence mode?<br /><br />That is, Europeans and East Asians were already so numerous and organized that they were able to deploy large-scale destruction, whereas S.S. Africans would've if they could've, but weren't equipped to?<br /><br />So I wonder where is the selection pressure is--did Northern peoples massacre first, and this selected for future planning/intelligence among them? Or did they get organized and clever first, thus allowing them to massacre? It's an interesting puzzle.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-3850739419256243642015-06-08T10:53:08.978+02:002015-06-08T10:53:08.978+02:00Excellent essay.
Thanks for explaining this very ...Excellent essay.<br /><br />Thanks for explaining this very matter of factly. I've had very similar ideas myself for a very long time. Thanks for taking the time to put your version into form. And providing easy links to your supporting data sets.<br />I find the presented theories to be rational extensions of evolutionary theory. And presented theories here, very simply, easily explain a lifetime of first-hand, second-hand, third-hand observations of the different human races (I live in a major metropolis in the USA).<br /><br />My own theoretical addition to this essay would be the following: organized tribal fighting is also a force of human evolution. At least, in it's form before the past two centuries. For most of human history, if your tribe or state was outmatched by another, your tribe would be wiped out. Africans do display tribal behavior but not to the extreme degree that Europeans and Eastern Asians did for eons. That is, Africans tend to skirmish. Europeans, East Asians tend to slaughter. This would be an additional explanation why Europeans and Asians have such an accelerated intelligence; humans evolved to outwit other humans.<br />It's a chilling theory, perhaps. I don't come to it gleefully. But, for me, it does explain much about racial differences and tendencies like cooperation, mental organization, self-discipline and tool-tinkering; all excellent martial traits. And, for much of written history, Europeans and East Asians engaged in much large-scale warfare (it's just their tendency!). Whereas, to the best of my knowledge, such organized, ongoing, large-scale war was far less common among African tribes (again, Africans tended to skirmish, not engage in all-out war; the Zulus were notable for being an exception to this tendency).<br />Yes, a bit simplistic but I'm only commenting here. I'm not writing my own essay.<br /><br />Unfortunately, if most of the people I associate with had found I read this essay, they would run me out of town (some friends!). In the least, leaving my name here could get me fired (seriously). So I'm stuck commenting anonymously. :-(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-63437403744648532622015-06-02T03:04:53.181+02:002015-06-02T03:04:53.181+02:00APaige--
I have always thought philosophy was str...APaige--<br /><br />I have always thought philosophy was strongly linked to abstract thinking ability. Best evidence for me is that it remains an overwhelmingly male pursuit, and men are known to outclass women on abstract thinking. PhDs in philosophy go <a href="http://kieranhealy.org/files/misc/phil-by-discipline.pdf" rel="nofollow">mostly to men</a>, the field of great philosophers is almost wholly masculine.<br /><br />I linked some studies above which show future orientation being related to math ability. Is there a correlative chain? Future orientation <--> mathematical ability <--> abstract thinking <--> philosophy talent? <br /><br />As Gedeliah Braun said, to think abstractly is to think of things <i>which are not.</i> Philosophy taps heavily into this ability. To think about the future is also to think about things <i>which are not</i> (yet). To me the connection doesn't seem far-fetched.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-69583196745125123472015-06-02T02:43:46.765+02:002015-06-02T02:43:46.765+02:00John Saunders--
Leads me to wonder if the reprodu...John Saunders--<br /><br /><i>Leads me to wonder if the reproductive winners are time preference losers.</i><br /><br />Surely it depended on the environment? By definition high future orientation was a 'reproductive winner' in those places that today have a lot of future-oriented folks. There's your diligent German and worker-bee Japanese.<br /><br />Low future orientation would have been the 'reproductive winner' where you today see lots of present-oriented peoples (S.S. Africa for example).<br /><br />But in our era, the selection pressures don't look anything like they did in the neolithic, and they also look less and less like they did in the 1200-1800 period <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/07/science/07indu.html?pagewanted=print&_r=0" rel="nofollow">Gregory Clark</a> talks about.<br /><br />Maybe you've already seen J. Roger Devlin's <a href="https://dontmarry.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/sexualutopia.pdf" rel="nofollow">Sexual Utopia in Power</a>; if not, he talks a bit about this issue on p. 21, 'Return to the Primitive.' His idea is that we've changed our environment so radically these last several decades that we're in a sense regressing to a much more primitive mating style (<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/magazine/book-review-coming-apart-by-charles-murray-01192012.html" rel="nofollow">Charles Murray</a> might argue it's affecting the lower classes more than anyone else). Don't know if there's anything too it though.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-59827101901510432392015-06-01T04:58:58.837+02:002015-06-01T04:58:58.837+02:00Thank-you for, as usual, a fantastic essay. I have...Thank-you for, as usual, a fantastic essay. I have always seen a relationship between have a historical foundation in philosophical endeavors and modern accomplishments. Is the lack of producing major philosophical works related to time orientation? Or is it just a coincidence that those nations that have not produced much would also not produce anything of value in philosophy?APaigenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-17505884742678647472015-05-31T09:59:50.453+02:002015-05-31T09:59:50.453+02:00Mating is assisted by a strong sex drive, aggressi...Mating is assisted by a strong sex drive, aggression, dominance, sociability, extraversion, impulsiveness, sensation seeking, and high testosterone. Provisioning is assisted by anxiety, altruism, empathy, behavioral restraint, gratification delay, and a long life span.<br /><br />Interesting. "Mating" fits in very well with "Alpha males" on the PUA Sexual Market Value scale. Leads me to wonder if the reproductive winners are time preference losers.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06735683462937928831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-77325692072976939402015-05-31T02:05:06.840+02:002015-05-31T02:05:06.840+02:00PatrickH--
Nom d'un chien, how many ways can ...PatrickH--<br /><br /><i>Nom d'un chien</i>, how many ways can I butcher Gottfredson's name in one week? Thanks and you're right. In my defense, I was racing like a fiend to publish this, hence all the editing mistakes. Thanks for your eagle eye.<br /><br />For those who don't know, she is an extremely prolific contributor to the field of intelligence research. Still plugging away at the U. of Delaware as far as I know. Check out her stuff here:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/index.html" rel="nofollow">Linda Gottfredson publication list</a><br /><br />Linda if you ever read this, <i>mea culpa</i> and thanks for making your excellent work available online.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-22926786673756146832015-05-31T01:17:35.162+02:002015-05-31T01:17:35.162+02:00I believe it is "Linda Gottfredson" not ...I believe it is "Linda Gottfredson" not "Gottfriedstein" or "Gottfriedsen".PatrickHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-41111269405191723412015-05-31T00:31:50.134+02:002015-05-31T00:31:50.134+02:00Anon--
Whoops, that Wang et al. is not my Wang et...Anon--<br /><br />Whoops, that Wang et al. is not my Wang et al.! Here is the correct link:<br /><br /><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1481443" rel="nofollow">How Time Preferences Differ: Evidence from 45 Countries</a><br /><br />You can open the PDF right on the page, and the graph appears on p. 17 of the PDF. I've corrected it in the post too.<br /><br />Thank you for catching that. <i>Mea culpa.</i>M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-25384674166455181822015-05-31T00:23:19.507+02:002015-05-31T00:23:19.507+02:00JayMan--
Good points all, and I've included C...JayMan--<br /><br />Good points all, and I've included Clark in the post now. Big oversight on my part.<br /><br />Re: the Cold Winters theory, I admit to not following the various IQ theory debates as closely as I could. While searching, I found this comment thread at Dr James Thompson's, <a href="http://drjamesthompson.blogspot.ca/2014/06/richard-lynn-kazakhstan-cold-winters.html" rel="nofollow">'Richard Lynn, Kazakhstan, cold winters, and the world'</a> (you're there too) which has some interesting debate on the topic. As you said in <a href="http://jayman.blog.com/2012/06/14/more-on-farming-and-inheritance-systems-part-i-iq/" rel="nofollow">this post,</a> there could have been an initial future planning / intellingence bump from adapting to harsh prehistoric climate, then much later bumps from a variety of other factors, including the Clarkian conditions.<br /><br />Thanks as always for your comments and links.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-89077145474203061432015-05-30T15:54:50.393+02:002015-05-30T15:54:50.393+02:00The pdf used for gratification delay chart has no ...The pdf used for gratification delay chart has no data on gratification delay. The title of the article is in the linked pdf is:<br /><br />"Do Patterns of Bacterial Diversity along Salinity<br />Gradients Differ from Those Observed for<br />Macroorganisms?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-30280055231876875672015-05-30T05:08:52.691+02:002015-05-30T05:08:52.691+02:00I love theories as much as the next White person. ...I love theories as much as the next White person. Bottom line: Blacks are not the same, or equal. What's the answer? Some sort of "Brace New World" scenario? Look, the world is a very complex place. Blacks don't fit, in a first world environment. Neither do so many other ethnic groups. And, even those who can fit in, I don't want here.They share NOTHING with us. Frankly, I don't understand their desire to come to a country where everything is so different. I have NO interest in living in India. Or China. Or South Korea. Or, frankly, anywhere these aliens hail from. Are their home countries so bad, that they feel compelled to immigrate here? <br /><br />For me, the idea that I would move to a country where everybody looks so radically different from me, and, the fact that I was leaving a country that wasn't a basket case economically, confuses me. I WOULD NOT DO IT. So, why are these non-Whites from countries that are doing well economically moving here? For some unknown reason to me, they LIKE being around WHITES, and NOT their own kind. Seriously? I don't get it. I would kill to be amongst my own.IKUreduxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-84576832460313244692015-05-29T14:04:44.035+02:002015-05-29T14:04:44.035+02:00A couple of things:
First, I'd recommend read...A couple of things:<br /><br />First, I'd recommend readers see:<br /><br /><a href="http://jaymans.wordpress.com/2014/04/17/predictions-on-the-worldwide-distribution-of-personality/" rel="nofollow">Predictions on the Worldwide Distribution of Personality | JayMan's Blog</a><br /><br />I wouldn't use Rushton's r/K theory. It only works if you restrict yourself to sub-Saharan Africans, Northern(western) Europeans, and East Asians. Inclusion of other groups (most poignantly, Arctic peoples or Central Asians) quickly renders it untenable. "Cold winters", by themselves, did not select for modern levels of IQ, docility, or future time orientation. Those were the result of more recent selection, primarily Clarkian selection.<br /><br />My post talks about some of the selective pressures that may have produced these modern traits.<br /><br />Another key problem however is that we have poor cross-cultural personality data. Personality tests are hard to do cross-nationally.JayManhttp://jaymans.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-31988834341959875532015-05-29T01:24:19.069+02:002015-05-29T01:24:19.069+02:00Travis--
Thanks for stopping by and reading. I ap...Travis--<br /><br />Thanks for stopping by and reading. I appreciate your encouragement.<br /><br />Mr. Mystery--<br /><br />Thank you. I have to wonder if there is a causal connection between NW Euros' plummeting fertility (most of us not even at replacement level) and the ushering in of all these immigrants. Africans are seriously out-breeding Europeans at this point and these boat people are starting to look like the overflow. How long can it last...M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-36377172501391250582015-05-28T22:04:56.493+02:002015-05-28T22:04:56.493+02:00Another excellent post, as usual. As someone else ...Another excellent post, as usual. As someone else pointed out, it's a dose of sanity in the madhouse of blank slatist discourse that dominates everything these days.<br /><br />One can only hope that the future-orientation of the northern peoples really prevails and they do something about their fertility rate (and that of the africans) rather than walking blindly into a dark, depressing future.red clockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02882684228403799652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-53554684876022156872015-05-28T11:36:26.825+02:002015-05-28T11:36:26.825+02:00I rent, because I don't intend on staying long...I rent, because I don't intend on staying long-term in the particular place where I live, but I've planted 6 trees in the immediate neighborhood so that someone, someday, will have nice trees to enjoy. <br /><br />A nice society where things work requires sometimes doing things not for one's immediate benefit, but for some unknown others. <br /><br />People think there is some magic to living in a nice society; that they can just move into one and get all of the benefits of niceness without any of the annoying or boring parts. But no one ever had much fun picking up trash, or digging ditches, or laying water pipes. Nice societies depend on peoples' willingness to do such activities anyway.EvolutionistXhttps://evolutionistx.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-71848181238879700322015-05-27T17:47:17.673+02:002015-05-27T17:47:17.673+02:00I look forward to this blog more than any other. I...I look forward to this blog more than any other. It's a ray of sanity in a madhouse. Keep up the excellent work!Travisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-91463161553484295712015-05-27T00:27:29.077+02:002015-05-27T00:27:29.077+02:00RedZenGenoist--
Thank you kindly for the correcti...RedZenGenoist--<br /><br />Thank you kindly for the correction, and as always thanks for your encouragement.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.com