tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post1269449200724135395..comments2023-12-29T09:44:01.870+01:00Comments on Those Who Can See: Chalk and cheeseM.G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-41561936220755477702019-05-10T00:22:54.906+02:002019-05-10T00:22:54.906+02:00No matter how many times it's explained to for...No matter how many times it's explained to foreigners, they fail to understand or retain the fact that given the incredible rates of internal migration in Italy from south to north since the end of the 19th century but especially since the 1950s, a good thirty to forty percent of "Lombards", or people from Piedmont or even Emilia are either completely or partly Sicilian, Calabrian, Campanian etc. in actual genetic ancestry, and that applies to PISA scores as well. <br /><br />So whatever Nordicist point you're trying to make, you've failed. Elenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17646276739796660109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-801215116709971132019-05-10T00:20:20.924+02:002019-05-10T00:20:20.924+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Elenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17646276739796660109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-11755347397795643202018-12-10T09:58:54.713+01:002018-12-10T09:58:54.713+01:00@M.G Yes, Lombardy also has the largest migrant po...@M.G Yes, Lombardy also has the largest migrant population in the North. As with the South there is a trend of African/Arab migrants and cousin marriage levels.Jesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10586392229924485433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-28546724703213310232018-12-10T09:57:08.898+01:002018-12-10T09:57:08.898+01:00The regions of Italy that were supposedly the most...The regions of Italy that were supposedly the most inbred (Sicily and surrounding area) were historically the regions with the largest populations of both Africans and Jews. Both of which heavily practiced cousin marriage even in Italy. The Ashkenazi Jews who resided in Southern Italy since the Roman period are heavily inbred today (and high IQ contrary to your theory). As are the migrants from Africa. We can also observe this trend in Britain, the refugees in their countries still bring over the traditions from back home. As Pakistani, Arab and African communities in Britain still practice it despite it being illegal in Britain. Pakistani account for 30% of British children born with illness despite being a minority. By comparison? native Southern Italians? don’t share this same nact of producing ill children, they don’t show any of the signs of heavy inbreeding as Arabs or Africans do no deformities in infancy, diseases, or otherwise no on the contrary they’re quite healthy and live long. The way to bring down inbreeding levels in Euro nations? Stop bringing over cultures who vehemently practice it (Africans, Arabs).<br /><br />https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/children/11723308/First-cousin-marriages-in-Pakistani-communities-leading-to-appalling-disabilities-among-children.html<br /><br />Jesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10586392229924485433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-44905172709122423352016-08-02T14:56:33.663+02:002016-08-02T14:56:33.663+02:00Was Sicily really at 40+% first cousin marriages a...Was Sicily really at 40+% first cousin marriages as late as mid-20th century? I had thought it was merely 10% in the early 20th century (I read that somewhere), and that comes quite as a shock to me.reiner Torhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07870196532441237336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-10076237176931392292011-11-12T12:17:54.102+01:002011-11-12T12:17:54.102+01:00wonder what's going on there?
Umbria's av...<i>wonder what's going on there?</i><br /><br />Umbria's average was only 3.89% (Perugia/Terni provinces), one of the lowest, and that was true even back in the 1910s. <br /><br />Lombardy was a bit high for the north (8.16%); Calabria (32.5%) and Sicily (41.49%) were highest overall. (Sardinia = not even half of Sicily's rate, at 19.54%.)<br /><br />If I had more time, I would weight each province's score according to its population (may still in the future). This is just a quick-and-dirty geographical averaging. Cafalli-Sforza has done such fine work on Italy, I would love to see these numbers for other Catholic countries like Spain or Portugal.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-46760731230855275792011-11-12T00:19:59.927+01:002011-11-12T00:19:59.927+01:00that's a lot of first-cousin marriage in sicil...that's a lot of first-cousin marriage in sicily, all right!<br /><br />isn't umbria a curious little province with so low a consanguinity rate so far to the south? wonder what's going on there?hbd chickhttp://hbdchick.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-47005419372688086462011-11-05T14:14:00.299+01:002011-11-05T14:14:00.299+01:00I came across this map of the referendum that abol...<i>I came across this map of the referendum that abolished the Italian monarchy on Wikipedia.</i><br /><br />Thank you, I've added it after the 'Republic and Autocratic Traditions in 1300' map (modified to single-tint...I know the two-tint maps are popular, but I find them visually confusing). How surprisingly little things change in 600 years!<br /><br />Your map template is quite pleasing to the eye and I think it renders very well here.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-67802721959414079962011-11-05T09:40:40.711+01:002011-11-05T09:40:40.711+01:00While I was looking for the name of a former Itali...While I was looking for the name of a former Italian province [Istria] in order to comment on hbd chick's post referencing this post, I came across <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Italian_Republic_Referendum_1946.png" rel="nofollow">this map</a> of the referendum that abolished the Italian monarchy on Wikipedia. I thought it was an interesting juxtaposition with the other politically related maps.<br /><br />On a side note, I have to give you a thumbs up on how you rendered the PISA map. I know that the light silhouette on dark textured background set-up that I have on my blog doesn't translate well onto the color schemes on most other sites, so I think that you had a pretty clever workaround there.The Reluctant Apostatehttp://reluctantapostate.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-77822267497768996382011-10-24T13:58:55.853+02:002011-10-24T13:58:55.853+02:00Indeed, it is endlessly complex... No institution ...Indeed, it is endlessly complex... No institution functions exactly the same way in two places, nor can it, not until we all become one big magically homogeneous people. How much energy could be saved if policy makers accepted this, instead of endlessly and fruitlessly fighting it.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-59915455060619076262011-10-24T01:33:41.568+02:002011-10-24T01:33:41.568+02:00"Is there a causal relationship, in either di...<i>"Is there a causal relationship, in either direction, between our government systems and us?"</i><br /><br />i think the answer to that is 'yes' -- and that the causal relationship goes both ways.<br /><br />when i started reading about inbreeding and outbreeding and all that stuff, i thought that it was probably the case that muslims were muslims because of how inbred they are, and christians are christians because of how outbred <i>they</i> are.<br /><br />then i learned that it was actually the church that manipulated the mating patterns of europeans (and other populations). what a surprise that was for me!<br /><br />i still think that a lot of the <i>characteristics</i> of certain sects of islam (particularly in the arab world, middle east, & south asia) stem from the mating patterns in those populations, and that a lot of the <i>characteristics</i> of european christianity (or what's left of it) stem from our mating patterns.<br /><br />but now i understand that these things feed into one another in a great, big feedback loop. the nature of a people feeds its culture (which includes things like religion and gov't systems), and those things in turn feed back into the nature of the people.<br /><br />in other words, it's complicated! (^_^)<br /><br />(see, i'm not such a genetic determinist after all! (~_^) )hbd chickhttp://hbdchick.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com