tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post4511425880885606148..comments2023-12-29T09:44:01.870+01:00Comments on Those Who Can See: Reparations for Slavery?M.G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-29458516826947658862018-04-29T02:43:43.729+02:002018-04-29T02:43:43.729+02:00I am marry by name. Greetings to every one that is...I am marry by name. Greetings to every one that is reading this testimony. I have been rejected by my husband after three(3) years of marriage just because another woman had a spell on him and he left me and the kid to suffer. one day when i was reading through the web, i saw a post on how this spell caster on this address drebhota123456@gmail.com , have help a woman to get back her husband and i gave him a reply to his address and he told me that a woman had a spell on my husband and he told me that he will help me and after 2 days that i will have my husband back. i believed him and today i am glad to let you all know that this spell caster have the power to bring lovers back. because i am now happy with my husband. Thanks for Dr ebhota.for help email him:OR. his phone number: +2349035324155buay marryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02474429672863695482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-46155443556252335292018-02-10T18:44:00.264+01:002018-02-10T18:44:00.264+01:00You made an assertion at the end of your essay tha...You made an assertion at the end of your essay that homeless people desire homes and I assume this somehow being self evidently true is the basis for your claim it rightly analogous to slaves desiring freedom. Not so. At the risk of sounding glib and tautological I will assert that if most homeless people wanted to live like normal people and according to societie's expectations and norms then most would be living in some sort of home. As a former chronically homeless person I can tell you that you make the classic mistake of assuming that homeless people desire to live as you do and value the same things you do. I can assure you very confidently most ABSOLUTELY DO NOT. For the most part they have an entirely different, highly antisocial,set of values that set them in opposition with the rest of society. Also homelessness tends to be the visible portion at the very tail end of a lifetime of trade offs and decisions by an individual which show that person consistently prioritizing something OTHER than stability, employment, sobriety, a proof, etc. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12835725697973043616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-12226814371051050312014-12-23T00:37:36.432+01:002014-12-23T00:37:36.432+01:00This has got to stop now!! this hiding behind- not...This has got to stop now!! this hiding behind- notions that the present population cannot be made responsible for the actions of their ancestors, while those of the enslaved continue to suffer the consequences- while the slavers inheritors continue to benefit from the misery of others. Please peruse:<br /> The Blackest Berry. by W J V Grant…for another perspective on this matter.jgranrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-47224868932296618282014-11-04T21:49:38.451+01:002014-11-04T21:49:38.451+01:00Mr. Rational--
I'm so sorry, Blogger continue...Mr. Rational--<br /><br />I'm so sorry, Blogger continues to mysteriously single you out as the only non-anonymous commenter it throws in the spam folder. That's why your comments were so slow to post. I cannot account for it, and I do apologize.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-63410844107974454612014-11-03T00:50:17.189+01:002014-11-03T00:50:17.189+01:00Californian--
Now we see black Africans mass migr...Californian--<br /><br /><i>Now we see black Africans mass migrating into Europa--and then trashing cities into which they settle. It's like some kind of barbarian invasion--and one which is being abetted by hostile elites in the first world.</i><br /><br />This is where modern orthodoxy really goes off the rails, this idea that an immigrant is an immigrant is an immigrant...We used to understand that NW Euro migrants were a much better fit for us than those from the warmer climes. Today that's turned on its head, the more melanin the better, and not just in the U.S. but all the West. It's really something I think historians will look back at with extreme puzzlement.<br /><br /><i>Several race realist sites I have visited recently have had the "Please prove you're not a robot" feature enabled. Is there any reason for this? It slows down posting considerably.</i><br /><br />I'm not sure about that, possibly their spam filters aren't any good? Blogger's has gotten noticeably better over the years, which is why I've turned off the 'captcha' for good. (knock on wood)M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-60516892307431897712014-10-22T20:42:18.169+02:002014-10-22T20:42:18.169+02:00Several race realist sites I have visited recently...<i>Several race realist sites I have visited recently have had the "Please prove you're not a robot" feature enabled.</i><br /><br />The more successful we become, the more the anti-nationalists and anti-Whites work to attack us. Slowing them down increases the amount of manpower they need to mount their attacks.Mr. Rationalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-19290369897408200752014-10-22T19:57:10.741+02:002014-10-22T19:57:10.741+02:00Over fifty black African countries who'd be th...<i>Over fifty black African countries who'd be thrilled to welcome some first-world migrants, and yet not one of these race hucksters has shown even the slightest wish to escape White Oppression and go settle in Blacktopia... One can only wonder why not.</i><br /><br />Also, consider that millions of blacks are more than willing to mass migrate into white majority countries where, presumably, they will be oppressed by racism, institutional racism, micro-aggressions, and the terrible legacies of slavery-segregation-colonialism.<br /><br />Blacks in Africa got what they wanted with the end of colonialism: majority rule, one-man-one-vote, African socialism. And what did they do? Wreck their own countries. Even Tanzania and Kenya, which were better prepared and better led for independence, are headed towards failed state status. You'd think they would be happy with their own countries, but nope, once they wreck them, they move on to better frontiers (Europe, North America). <br /><br />The global reality is that blacks simply can not make their own societies work. We can blame any number of things for this. But the end result comes down to black politicos scamming whites. There's always some racket, whether affirmative action, food aid for Africa, refugee resettlement, "reparations." And behind the racket, the implied threat of force: "give us what we want or we will riot." Now we see black Africans mass migrating into Europa--and then trashing cities into which they settle. It's like some kind of barbarian invasion--and one which is being abetted by hostile elites in the first world. <br /><br />Thing is, white people need to recognize what is happening here. It's not about "reparations;" it's a clash between (white) civilization and (black)...well, can we call it civilization?Californiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-36981756460680104572014-10-22T19:38:41.334+02:002014-10-22T19:38:41.334+02:00Several race realist sites I have visited recently...Several race realist sites I have visited recently have had the "Please prove you're not a robot" feature enabled. Is there any reason for this? It slows down posting considerably.Californiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-52626882406921203522014-10-19T19:27:40.471+02:002014-10-19T19:27:40.471+02:00You also made me think of this blog, written by an...<i>You also made me think of this blog, written by an Afro-American woman who spends much of her time warning others like her in the strongest terms possible to avoid living near black men.</i><br /><br />We can hope that she didn't make any more of them herself.Mr. Rationalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-20806961571154812052014-10-14T22:59:14.424+02:002014-10-14T22:59:14.424+02:00Californian--
If "reparations" are to b...Californian--<br /><br /><i>If "reparations" are to be paid for slavery, then should this apply to:...</i><br /><br />Yes, I agree this is a weak point in Coates' argument. He wants to believe U.S. slavery was somehow uniquely abhorrent, when nothing could be further from the truth. But I suspect his historical knowledge on the question is thin.<br /><br /><i>Come to think about it, how about if blacks pay "reparations" for wrecking every major city they have gained control of, starting with Detroit.</i><br /><br />This would be an interesting exercise--as long as Coates & Co. are giving counter-factuals, why not calculate how much higher the rest of America's net worth would be today had Africans never been enslaved here? They've given a lot, but they've taken exponentially more. This would be a truly complex calculation though, well outside my capacities.<br /><br /><i>if we were really interested in "reparations," then worthies like Coates would be deported to the African country of their choice</i><br /><br />This is, to me, the strongest indictment of them. Over fifty black African countries who'd be thrilled to welcome some first-world migrants, and yet not one of these race hucksters has shown even the slightest wish to escape White Oppression and go settle in Blacktopia... One can only wonder why not.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-59161318822906530732014-10-14T22:48:31.183+02:002014-10-14T22:48:31.183+02:00Anon--
Thanks for your comment. Yes, I'm awar...Anon--<br /><br />Thanks for your comment. Yes, I'm aware there were a lot of freedmen running riot after Emancipation, but first-hand testimony shows that there was also a sub-set of southern Whites who were seemingly traumatized by the end of slavery. Their identity had become so tied up in it that the sight of free Blacks tranquilly living their lives, in some cases earning a good living, apparently sent them around the bend. This sub-set of Euros committed hair-raising atrocities against peaceful, hard-working Afros (living the very lives Southerners said they <i>wanted</i> Afros to live). It's the point from Coates that I feel has the most merit. I think I'll come back to it later, though, because I do need a break from this topic.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-37477840304482555982014-10-14T09:22:36.364+02:002014-10-14T09:22:36.364+02:00"Reparations" for slavery needs to be se..."Reparations" for slavery needs to be seen for what it really is: one more racket in a long history of race rackets. The advocates for "reparations" could care less about the facts. "Reparations" is one more way to hustle white people. These rackets will go on until YT stands up and say, "Enough!"<br /><br />Let's take this a step further. If "reparations" are to be paid for slavery, then should this apply to:<br />* Muslims who enslaved Africans, Europeans, Hindus, etc?<br />* Native Americans who practiced not only slavery but some really cruel activities against their prisoners?<br />* Africans themselves who engaged in the slave trade?<br />* Communists, whose gulags enslaved tens of millions of people?<br />* How about American blacks, whose demands have created involuntary servitude for whites who are forced to pay for the welfare state? <br /><br />Come to think about it, how about if blacks pay "reparations" for wrecking every major city they have gained control of, starting with Detroit. Or for all the crime they have committed out of proportion to their numbers? Or the demands they have placed on the welfare and school systems to accommodate their dysfunctions? Or the Long Hot Summer riots of the 1960s--which continue through to today's Fergusons? How about blacks in South Africa paying reparations for all the necklacings, farm attacks and torture-murders they revel in? Or blacks in any number of European countries paying reparations for their burning neighborhoods and crossing illegally into YT's lands from Africa? <br /><br />What the demands for "reparations" (per the Atlantic article) indicates is that black politics can never be anything more than a glorified exercise in extortion. If one were to make a case that it is impossible to assimilate blacks into civil society, this would be Item #1. <br /><br />Come to think of it, if we were really interested in "reparations," then worthies like Coates would be deported to the African country of their choice--though come to think of it, I wouldn't want to wish such a racketeer on even a Bob Mugabe.Californiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-43240316008449718662014-10-11T14:52:24.270+02:002014-10-11T14:52:24.270+02:00MG,
Wow, thanks for the calculations. And even if...MG,<br /><br />Wow, thanks for the calculations. And even if I'm not always blathering, when something new is posted I'm always to be found around these parts.Audacious Epigonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07495507254628580077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-20555303302274752612014-10-08T03:21:16.514+02:002014-10-08T03:21:16.514+02:00Thanks for the article. I've been checking da...Thanks for the article. I've been checking daily for a few weeks and glad to see you didn't disappoint with this follow up. <br /><br />I'm pretty sure your next article will be more enlightened and well thought out then my comment here, but watch out for the segregation / Klan and evil white man harassment pitfall on the after slavery thing.<br /><br />Once they were free, they were free to reign terror, and it's only increased since slavery ended. Sad really: Segregation / Separate but equal in the USA was the best thing that ever happened to blacks in the history of their entire race. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-50466651951677259602014-10-08T01:04:16.991+02:002014-10-08T01:04:16.991+02:00pseudoerasmus--
Indeed, it works for me now too, ...pseudoerasmus--<br /><br />Indeed, it works for me now too, don't know why I got a 404 the other day. I've now added a link to it in Part IV of the post, thanks again.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-47380839288356617602014-10-07T00:06:25.698+02:002014-10-07T00:06:25.698+02:00The $12 trillion blogpost comes up no problem for ...The $12 trillion blogpost comes up no problem for me, at least right now. I seem to have problems with all the posts from May 2014 but I've had half a dozen clicks on the $12 trillion blogpost from this location so it must be working.pseudoerasmus.comhttp://pseudoerasmus.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-57568764407972980112014-10-06T01:59:51.959+02:002014-10-06T01:59:51.959+02:00pseudoerasmus--
I've read your two posts on U...pseudoerasmus--<br /><br />I've read your two posts on U.S. slave cotton economics and commented on them at your blog.<br /><br />Re: Your "12 trillion" blog post--the link you posted above is broken, and when I searched for it on the internet I got a "page not found" message. Have you removed the post? I'd like to include a link to it in my own post. Thanks.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-50544973369870325612014-10-06T01:59:12.557+02:002014-10-06T01:59:12.557+02:00Audacious Epigone--
Always a pleasure to see you ...Audacious Epigone--<br /><br />Always a pleasure to see you in these parts.<br /><br /><i>Any idea for a ballpark figure of what percentage of total slavery in the history of the world that African slaves in North America comprise?</i><br /><br />A good question, and in the vast slavery literature I've trawled through, I haven't seen it broached. Your guess of 'low single digits' is, I think, an <i>over</i>estimation. If one looks at just New World slavery alone, the answer is 'low single digits'--<a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dgeMyGuzmvg/VDGkTeYrTJI/AAAAAAAAF6Q/rl21mIWV5wQ/s1600/Distribution%2Bof%2BSlave%2BImports%2Bto%2Bnew%2Bworld%2Bpie%2Bgraph.png" rel="nofollow">6%, in fact.</a> (I didn't include that graph in the original post, <i>mea culpa</i>, I've now added it.)<br /><br />As for world slavery throughout history, consider this: Total Africans taken out of the continent by Arabs is pegged at 12 million, with those taken by Europeans also estimated at around 12 million. Add these two together and you don't even have the number of slaves thought to exist on the planet <i>today</i><a href="http://www.globalslaveryindex.org/findings/" rel="nofollow"> (just shy of 30 million)</a>.<br /><br />If we look back at the many hundreds of millions no doubt enslaved since we first began coercing each other into labor millennia ago, I think the approximately 600,000 Africans brought to N. America will come out to a tiny fraction of one percent.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-41645897888899708422014-10-06T01:55:12.617+02:002014-10-06T01:55:12.617+02:00Jason C.--
Yes, I think it's safe to say ever...Jason C.--<br /><br />Yes, I think it's safe to say every ethnic group has a certain less-functional layer which responds enthusiastically to the govt. offer of 'have children, but don't marry the father(s), and we'll send you a check every month.' The U.K.'s 'chav' class is one famous example. But it does seem U.S. Afros have been exceptionally seduced by this type of offer, and the data lines up with that. I hadn't thought of it in terms of black women thinking black men are low-quality providers, but there is a certain logic there.<br /><br />You also made me think of <a href="http://sojournerspassport.com/you-betta-recognize-part-2-white-male-dominated-law-enforcement-is-the-only-thing-standing-between-you-and-mass-rape-in-black-neighborhoods/" rel="nofollow">this blog</a>, written by an Afro-American woman who spends much of her time warning others like her in the strongest terms possible to avoid living near black men.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-65264559422812877572014-10-05T01:58:56.577+02:002014-10-05T01:58:56.577+02:00"In an alternate reality without slavery, whe...<i>"In an alternate reality without slavery, where Coates' ancestors stayed in Africa, he and his co-ethnics are enjoying but a pale shadow of the wealth and comfort they know in this one."</i><br /><br />I had a blogpost precisely about that, arguing that African-Americans have already been paid their reparations. <a href="http://pseudoerasmus.com/2014/05/28/12-trillion/" rel="nofollow">$12 trillion</a><br /><br />Regarding my blogpost on cotton cultivars that Jayman linked to, I had a follow-up <a href="http://pseudoerasmus.com/2014/09/12/baptism-by-blood-cotton/" rel="nofollow">Baptism by Blood Cotton</a>. It's a critique of the claim (aired in a recent book) that slave productivity in cotton was achieved by violent and torturous intensification of work effort. But it's very detailed so I only recommend it only to those really really interested in the economics of slavery.pseudoerasmushttp://pseudoerasmus.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-61600890455643671702014-10-04T15:16:25.863+02:002014-10-04T15:16:25.863+02:00This is the go to Case Against Reparations. Impres...This is the go to Case Against Reparations. Impressive stuff, as always.<br /><br />Any idea for a ballpark figure of what percentage of total slavery in the history of the world that African slaves in North America comprise? <br /><br />The answer serves a mostly polemical purpose, but people like Coates on down tend to insinuate that "slavery" = "sub-Saharan Africans enslaved in the colonies/US in the 18th and 19th centuries". I assume it's in the low single digits, but I'm not certain enough to assert as much.Audacious Epigonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07495507254628580077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-34106927378752762182014-10-04T06:11:40.680+02:002014-10-04T06:11:40.680+02:00Re: Black marriage/two household plummet for the l...Re: Black marriage/two household plummet for the last half century.<br /><br />-Not coincidentally, this has been increasing since the welfare state started taking off. It would be easy enough for white women to be single mothers on the gov't dole like so many black women, and some choose to do so, but far more don't when we compare against blacks. That more than anything shows the value of a typical white husband/father vs. a black one. <br /><br />Without the necessity for a husband's paycheck to survive, many black women are basically making the sensible choice of not wanting themselves or their kids to be around black men, and their rampant rates of criminality, violence, absentee fatherism, etc.Jason C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-76217092141103921102014-10-04T06:00:48.756+02:002014-10-04T06:00:48.756+02:00"What about Somali ''refugees'..."What about Somali ''refugees'' in Minnesota? That one baffles me, tropical/equatorial Africans there?"<br /><br /><br />-To paraphrase Svigor: Blacks around the world just can't seem to stop coming to America to join in on the "pain".Namornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-60721919056368492002014-10-03T01:34:39.813+02:002014-10-03T01:34:39.813+02:00MustBeAnon--
Thank you for reading.MustBeAnon--<br /><br />Thank you for reading.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740067042613887004.post-4114976202936138492014-10-03T01:33:05.008+02:002014-10-03T01:33:05.008+02:00YIH--
Doubtful, the vast majority of Africans hav...YIH--<br /><br /><i>Doubtful, the vast majority of Africans have little or no financial sense whatsoever.</i><br /><br />This was my beef with Coates' red-lining argument too (from my last post). He says red-lining sapped Blacks' ability to build wealth, but the actual data shows this group saves less, spends more, pays their bills less, and even defaults on loans more than other ethnic groups with identical credit scores. The data's all there, it's really the elephant in the room for those who try to argue past injustices have magically pushed Afros into shoddy financial habits today.<br /><br />As far as your points on the practicality question, they're well-taken. I stuck with the conceptual side here--'can it be defended even in theory?'--because if it can, there's always a way to work out the details. (The Japanese-Americans for example, there were strict rules about who could and couldn't get the $$.) I think various Indian tribes have gotten payouts too, they reckon by some % of Indian blood proven by tribal records.<br /><br />The even larger point, to me, is that the whole thing smells like a cash-grab by a malfunctioning group who has run out of excuses. The further we get from slavery, the more dysfunctional they become. I believe this is deeply embarassing for them at some level, and massive AA isn't the magic fairy dust they'd hoped, hence the sudden fixation on a 200-year-old bogeyman.M.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06817230141673953233noreply@blogger.com